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Showing posts with label Good Division vs. Evil Division. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Good Division vs. Evil Division. Show all posts

Tuesday, September 1, 2015

Are you a 'vessel of honor'? Cleanse yourself from the false teachers and become one!

Been looking at a few verses in the Bible.  2 Timothy 2:21 speaks of "vessels of honor".  Here is what it says... 
"If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honor, sanctified, and fit for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work" (emphasis mine).
If we as Christians want to be used by God, we must purge, or cleanse, ourselves from "these".  If we don't, we will be a "vessel for dishonor".  What is "these" referring to?

Many people want to be used by God, set apart for Him, and useful to Him.  Some people pay a lot of money to go to supernatural schools of ministry to learn how to be "used by God".  Ironically, many of these schools of ministry are run by false teachers who are teaching unbiblical ideas that may look good, and "these" are exactly what God wants us to purge or cleanse ourselves of in order to be useful to Him!!!  


Let's go back to what "these" means.  God tells us in scripture that in order to be useful to Him, we must do something: we must "purge ourselves from these".  


In order to find out what it is we as Christians are to cleanse ourselves from, let's look at the chapter in context.  Earlier in the chapter, in verse 17, the Holy Spirit referred to Hymenaeus and Philetus.  These guys were heretics.  They were teaching false things.  They were not "rightly dividing the word of truth".  That's what many teachers do today. These two false teachers were ruining the Christians they were teaching their "babblings" to.  The Apostle Paul called these "babblings" or false teachings cancerous.  They spread like crazy and hurt many Christians.  Their teaching was a twist on the resurrection.  They were not teaching the right thing about it.  The false teachings they taught tended to prevail at Corinth.  Many teachers today teach the wrong thing about Jesus and who he is (his deity, etc).  Paul called them out by name. 


I started to wonder more about what it means to be a vessel of honor.  I see that many people want to do great things or miracles for the Lord, seeking to be a useful vessel for Him.  All the while, they are falling into a trap and are living with the pollution of false teachings instead of purging themselves from such teachers/teachings.  We are commanded in scripture to "mark and avoid" false teachers (Romans 16:17), yet how often do we see Christians flocking to them or being casual about fellowship with them and reading their books?  


I own a Bible commentary from 1935.  Here is what it says...

"In the visible Church there would be some hearts of gold incapable of being seduced, but there would also be some of less precious material liable to be led away by the heterodox teachers; if the latter purged themselves from their false teachers by rejecting their doctrine and ministry, they too would become vessels unto honor."

What about you?  Are you a vessel unto honor or dishonor?  An approved or disapproved worker?  God has always approved rejection of heresy and its teachers.  





Wednesday, February 25, 2015

Gnostic teaching that Jesus was not divine before baptism and an interesting find about 'fear' being taught at Bethel


Several months ago, I was flipping through a Bible.  It wasn't my Bible.  It was someone who has been very involved with Bethel Church, Bill Johnson, sozo, etc.  I heard the Holy Spirit tell me to flip open to 1 John 4:1.  Here is what that verse says: 

"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world".

I thought that was interesting, and I wondered why God wanted me to turn to that verse. I started reading the side notes. The person (who will remain unnamed, of course) had written in their Bible some notes. These notes said that false prophets are always motivated and characterized by fear. Over and over again, it said, "false prophets are known by their fear".

This really didn't make sense to me. In scripture, false prophets are motivated by their greed (see 2 Peter 2:3), lies/deceiving (Matthew 24:11; 2 Peter 2), and sorcery (Acts 13:6). Even in the Old Testament, the false prophets were known for their false words (Jer. 29:9 and 5:31). 2 John 1:7 says that those who don't acknowledge Jesus coming in the flesh are antichrist deceivers. That would be a sign of a false prophet. When you think about it, if Jesus was really only divine in the flesh just at and after his water baptism, like Johnson claims, wouldn't that be teaching that Jesus did not come in the flesh? I mean, if Jesus really came in the flesh, which He did, He would always be divine, even as a child.

Anyway, so where did this idea about false prophets/fear come from? The idea that false prophets are motivated by "fear"? This really doesn't make sense to me. The Apostle Paul had "fear" - he feared for the church that they would be deceived (2 Cor. 11:3). The "fear" of the Lord brings wisdom... Proverbs 9:10. I guess there are healthy fears and not so healthy fears. Does this mean that someone suffering from a fear of spiders is a false prophet? What about someone who doesn't like elevators??? Really doesn't make sense, Biblically.

Anyway, I got to thinking...are the teachers at Bethel teaching this? Why would this be in this person's notes? I Googled it, and actually Kris Valloton DOES preach a sermon about this online. Here is what he says:

"1 John 4 reveals a test for a false prophet.  They don't acknowledge the redemptive power of God; they don't listen; nor do they love.  False prophets use fear and fear of punishment as a main motivation in their ministry to get people to do what they predict."
But, where is the teaching that false prophets are motivated by greed, lies, deceit, sorcery, false teaching, etc., etc.? John the Baptist warned the pharisees to flee from the coming wrath of God (Matthew 3:7). That sounds like using "fear and fear of punishment". Does that make John the Baptist a false prophet? Certainly not! The Bible says that John the Baptist was the greatest prophet in history. Besides Jesus, of course.

It is the false prophets who speak "peace, peace" all the time that God warned about (see Jeremiah 8:11). They speak of peace and prosperity when there is none. Therefore, God calls them false prophets. THOSE are the ones God warns about in His Word over and over again.

False prophets will be very popular with many people (Luke 6:26). True prophets won't (Matthew 5:12).

Here is the sermon that Kris preached, if anyone would like to listen to it to test it to the Word: https://shop.ibethel.org/products/false-prophets-11-00am-august-01-2010

The reason why this concerns me is that I have been accused before, when lovingly confronting (in a gentle manner) a Bethel Church follower, that I have "fear". The conversation went something like this...

(me) "Do you know that Bill Johnson preaches that Jesus laid aside his divinity? Those were his direct quotes from his books/articles."

(person) "What are you afraid of? Why do you have so much fear? You should not be afraid of deception. The elect cannot be deceived anyway. Bill Johnson is not false. False prophets and false people are known by their fear."

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This concerns me because...I wonder if Bethel Church is teaching their followers to disregard what other Christians lovingly say to them because they must be "fearful", and "fear" is evil. I wonder. Not saying for sure! Just a thought. Isn't this what certain other groups do? They caution their followers to not listen to advice from others who might be cautious of the group or point out error? Isn't this a fear tactic? I believe this is what the cults do (try to shun or quiet outside voices who are trying to warn with love).

In the middle of the night last night, I do believe God woke me up and reminded me of a page I read in my study Bible. It's from 2 John. I believe He wanted me to include this in my post today. Gnostics taught that the divine Christ joined the man Jesus when he was baptized. Isn't this what Bill Johnson's books say? Yes! I have checked this out. For a list of direct quotes, view this article: http://blogs.christianpost.com/grace-under-fire/birds-of-a-feather-flock-together-10395/

Please check out the following photo from my Zondervan family reading Bible. Be alert and watchful!!





Wednesday, August 28, 2013

Good division or evil division? Division in the church....what did Paul teach? Bethel Church and Christianity and 1 Corinthians 1:12

For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. (1 Corinthians 11:19)

This scripture really stuck out today. This comes right after verse 18 in 1 Cor. 11 which speaks of divisions in the church. Paul was telling the Corinthians that when they come together, there are divisions. I checked the cross references for this, and the divisions Paul is speaking of is that in Corinth, some Christians were saying they followed Paul, others Cephas while others were saying they followed Apollos and some simply stated they followed Christ. Because of this they were separating into groups and not having unity. This can be found in 1 Corinthians 1:12.

Here I see two different kinds of division right next to each other in two verses (verses 19 and 18). Sometimes, people who follow Bethel Church will tell their confronters (who warn them about false teaching) that they are "divisive" and use the scripture from 1 Corinthians 1:12 to prove their point.

The problem with this is that Paul had an issue with the church being divided over the WRONG things. Here in this verse, we see that Apollos, Cephas, Paul and Jesus were all teaching the same thing about Christ. None of these men were teaching falsely!!! One was not saying "Christ was not divine at all times" while the other was saying "Christ was divine at all times". No! These leaders were all of one mind in their teaching. If one of them was a heretic, than Paul says that the Christians that are approved (by GOD) will be made manifest (will become obvious). That is, those who follow the heretic are unapproved by God. Those who separate from the heretic are approved by God. It would be manifest and evident who was REALLY following Jesus and His Word by who divided away from the heretic.

What Paul the apostle did not like about Corinth divisions is that they were being divided for a foolish reason. If pastor A and pastor B both teach correct sound doctrine from the Bible, but I am divided with you because you don't follow pastor A and I do, than that would be the unpleasing division that Paul was referring to. That is what was happening in Corinth. It was just stupid. It's like saying, my favorite color is blue and yours is red. Therefore I am not your friend. Totally immature. Paul says stop.

HOWEVER...

If Pastor A and Pastor B teach two totally different and contrary teachings about Christ, than only one is correct. God is a God of truth! He cannot be right and wrong at the same time. He cannot lie!

If Pastor A teaches correctly but Pastor B teaches heresy, and we are divided because of it, THAT IS THE KIND OF DIVISION THAT PAUL SPEAKS OF IN 1 CORINTHIANS 11:19. Paul explains that the very purpose of heresies is to see which Christians are approved by God!. It is those Christians who "mark and avoid" the false teachers who are mature and obedient followers of Christ (Romans 16:17). They are divided away for the right reasons. To not do so would be disobedience to the Lord Jesus.

Here are some supporting scriptures:


"If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder,
and the sign or the wonder comes true, concerning which he spoke to you, saying, ' Let us go after other gods (whom you have not known) and let us serve them,’
you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams; for the Lord your God is testing you to find out if you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul." (Deuteronomy 13:1-3)

Heresies are a test, people!  God is testing us to see what our reaction will be with heresies.  Are we going to flunk and keep following the false teachings down the broad road to destruction, or are we going to study the Bible and get on the narrow path (Matthew 7:14)? 

Here, being divided is a command!  Again, there is righteous division and unrighteous division.  Check it out...

"Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them." (Romans 16:17)

Marking and avoiding sounds pretty "divisive", yet it is a command straight from Jesus for His followers!


As you can see, not all division is a sin!  It is a sin to be divided for the wrong reasons.  There are also right reasons to be divided!  Jesus Himself said people would be divided:


Jesus Brings Division (Matthew 10) 
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
37 He that loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
38 And he that takes not his cross, and follows after me, is not worthy of me.



If there can be true, righteous division and false, unrighteous division, can there also be true, righteous unity and false, unrighteous unity?  Would being divided away from true Christians who teach true, sound doctrine be good division or evil division?  Have a blessed day.  ~ ADMIN