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Showing posts with label Warnings from Fellow Christians. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Warnings from Fellow Christians. Show all posts

Wednesday, February 25, 2015

Gnostic teaching that Jesus was not divine before baptism and an interesting find about 'fear' being taught at Bethel


Several months ago, I was flipping through a Bible.  It wasn't my Bible.  It was someone who has been very involved with Bethel Church, Bill Johnson, sozo, etc.  I heard the Holy Spirit tell me to flip open to 1 John 4:1.  Here is what that verse says: 

"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world".

I thought that was interesting, and I wondered why God wanted me to turn to that verse. I started reading the side notes. The person (who will remain unnamed, of course) had written in their Bible some notes. These notes said that false prophets are always motivated and characterized by fear. Over and over again, it said, "false prophets are known by their fear".

This really didn't make sense to me. In scripture, false prophets are motivated by their greed (see 2 Peter 2:3), lies/deceiving (Matthew 24:11; 2 Peter 2), and sorcery (Acts 13:6). Even in the Old Testament, the false prophets were known for their false words (Jer. 29:9 and 5:31). 2 John 1:7 says that those who don't acknowledge Jesus coming in the flesh are antichrist deceivers. That would be a sign of a false prophet. When you think about it, if Jesus was really only divine in the flesh just at and after his water baptism, like Johnson claims, wouldn't that be teaching that Jesus did not come in the flesh? I mean, if Jesus really came in the flesh, which He did, He would always be divine, even as a child.

Anyway, so where did this idea about false prophets/fear come from? The idea that false prophets are motivated by "fear"? This really doesn't make sense to me. The Apostle Paul had "fear" - he feared for the church that they would be deceived (2 Cor. 11:3). The "fear" of the Lord brings wisdom... Proverbs 9:10. I guess there are healthy fears and not so healthy fears. Does this mean that someone suffering from a fear of spiders is a false prophet? What about someone who doesn't like elevators??? Really doesn't make sense, Biblically.

Anyway, I got to thinking...are the teachers at Bethel teaching this? Why would this be in this person's notes? I Googled it, and actually Kris Valloton DOES preach a sermon about this online. Here is what he says:

"1 John 4 reveals a test for a false prophet.  They don't acknowledge the redemptive power of God; they don't listen; nor do they love.  False prophets use fear and fear of punishment as a main motivation in their ministry to get people to do what they predict."
But, where is the teaching that false prophets are motivated by greed, lies, deceit, sorcery, false teaching, etc., etc.? John the Baptist warned the pharisees to flee from the coming wrath of God (Matthew 3:7). That sounds like using "fear and fear of punishment". Does that make John the Baptist a false prophet? Certainly not! The Bible says that John the Baptist was the greatest prophet in history. Besides Jesus, of course.

It is the false prophets who speak "peace, peace" all the time that God warned about (see Jeremiah 8:11). They speak of peace and prosperity when there is none. Therefore, God calls them false prophets. THOSE are the ones God warns about in His Word over and over again.

False prophets will be very popular with many people (Luke 6:26). True prophets won't (Matthew 5:12).

Here is the sermon that Kris preached, if anyone would like to listen to it to test it to the Word: https://shop.ibethel.org/products/false-prophets-11-00am-august-01-2010

The reason why this concerns me is that I have been accused before, when lovingly confronting (in a gentle manner) a Bethel Church follower, that I have "fear". The conversation went something like this...

(me) "Do you know that Bill Johnson preaches that Jesus laid aside his divinity? Those were his direct quotes from his books/articles."

(person) "What are you afraid of? Why do you have so much fear? You should not be afraid of deception. The elect cannot be deceived anyway. Bill Johnson is not false. False prophets and false people are known by their fear."

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This concerns me because...I wonder if Bethel Church is teaching their followers to disregard what other Christians lovingly say to them because they must be "fearful", and "fear" is evil. I wonder. Not saying for sure! Just a thought. Isn't this what certain other groups do? They caution their followers to not listen to advice from others who might be cautious of the group or point out error? Isn't this a fear tactic? I believe this is what the cults do (try to shun or quiet outside voices who are trying to warn with love).

In the middle of the night last night, I do believe God woke me up and reminded me of a page I read in my study Bible. It's from 2 John. I believe He wanted me to include this in my post today. Gnostics taught that the divine Christ joined the man Jesus when he was baptized. Isn't this what Bill Johnson's books say? Yes! I have checked this out. For a list of direct quotes, view this article: http://blogs.christianpost.com/grace-under-fire/birds-of-a-feather-flock-together-10395/

Please check out the following photo from my Zondervan family reading Bible. Be alert and watchful!!





Sunday, October 20, 2013

Beni Johnson's statement about not wanting to be corrected by others who believe she is 'out of line' because basically only the holy spirit is allowed to do such a thing (but the real Holy Spirit uses people to correct, rebuke and encourage): What is a religious spirit?


Bethel Church has redefined the term 'religious spirit' and has wrongly labeled many sincere believers with this term.  A new term I thought of when thinking of Bethel Church is a 'resistant spirit'.  I was scrolling through Beni Johnson's page on Facebook recently where she teaches thousands, and these two posts startled me.  For those of you who don't know, Beni Johnson is Bill Johnson's wife.  Bill Johnson is the lead pastor of Bethel Church in northern California where many unorthodox and peculiar practices and teachings take place.  This is the same Bill Johnson who claims an anointing by God and that small, white angel feathers fall on him when he goes somewhere (like the grocery store, the bank, etc.).  This is also the same Bill Johnson that has taught in his writings (books, articles, etc.) that Christ laid his divinity aside (this is heresy; see my notes on the hypostatic union).  He still sells these books.  I have listed direct quotes and sources throughout this website with regard to these statements.  

These two posts concern me.  The reason is that Beni and her husband claim to be Christian teachers. This can be misleading. Biblically, a true, Godly teacher will be open to correction from others.  That is part of humility.  There is a wall that many people at Bethel Church put up when all that others are trying to do is to lovingly wake them up to the apostasy of the movement and the error of the teachings they believe.  If only they knew that their loved ones are trying to warn them of danger.  

They do claim to be used by the Holy Spirit, but I have noticed that they usually will not accept correction from others because they believe the misleading notion that only the Holy Spirit is allowed to do that.  This creates a resistant spirit in Bethel Church's followers to much-needed correction and help.  These statements from Beni could dangerously cause her followers to not accept correction from others, which God and the real Holy Spirit call "stupid" (Proverbs 12:1; Yes, the Bible does use that word).  Isn't it resisting the Holy Spirit when we won't accept a truthful correction from somebody?  Stephen told the members of the Sanhedrin that they were stiff-necked and always resisted the Holy Spirit (Acts 7:51).  Bold words.  They did not like all that he was saying because it was the truth.  They did not like all the people God sent to them in the past because they brought the truth.  Stephen says in verse 51 that their ancestors persecuted and killed God's messengers in the past.  The members of the Sanhedrin were enraged and stoned Stephen to death.  They were just like their ancestors.  Biblically, these are the people that had a religious spirit and a resistant spirit.  They resisted the truth.  Stephen brought the truth (sound doctrine).  Therefore, he did not have a religious spirit, but God's Spirit!  The Bible says he was full of the true Holy Spirit.  And, he boldly spoke the truth and brought correction and rebuke.  These leaders thought they were good enough and didn't need to hear truth from Stephen.  I don't think Stephen would have lasted too long on many Facebook pages.  He would have been blocked.  

In my opinion, the following statements cannot be further from the Holy Spirit of the Bible.  Even more concerning is that over 1,000 followers agreed with her thinking that this is something the real Holy Spirit would teach.

Look at the following: 




When a teacher who claims to be anointed by God is teaching "out of line" with what the Bible says, Jesus calls him or her a false teacher (Matthew 7:7).  God wants us to give others "our two cents" if it is the truth.  Proof of this can be found in James 5:20 (and elsewhere) where it says God wants us to attempt to turn people from their error if they have wandered from the truth.  I will add, if you suspect a person is a false prophet, extra caution should be taken and act with wisdom (maybe Matthew 7:6 and Titus 3:10 apply here).  Anyhow, the Holy Spirit uses people as His tools to reach people.  Proof of this is found in Romans 10:14 where it says people can hear the truth if other people preach it to them.  How will they hear without people?  Quite simply, the real Holy Spirit uses people, and He has done that for centuries.  That is why it is always good to listen to and consider advice from others who are Christians.  It may be truth or maybe not.  But, if we reject the corrections people bring automatically without thinking it through, we risk rejecting God's message to us.  The Bible is story after story of God using people to reach people.  That is the theme of chapter after chapter in the entire Bible!  The devil also uses people (even professed Christians; 2 Cor. 11:15), so we must be able to discern and compare what is said to the Bible.  

Romans 12 speaks of Christians having different gifts according to the grace that is given to us and says basically that he that exhorts, teaches, etc. should exercise these gifts.  Acts 13:4 says that the Holy Spirit sent two men (Barnabas and Saul) to Cyprus.  The Spirit sent them to talk about the word of God to certain people.  Ephesians 4:11 says basically that Jesus Christ gave certain people certain callings in order to speak and edify the Body of Christ.  The goal is so "we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness whereby they lie in wait to deceive..." (Ephesians 4:14).  These are just a handful of scriptures that show that the Holy Spirit does use people to bring the truth and to correct so that we will not be deceived.  God uses people to reach people because of His grace and as a safeguard to deception.

Now compare these statements above from Beni Johnson to the words of the true Holy Spirit in the Bible.  Do you think Beni teaches another spirit that the Apostle Paul warned about in 2 Corinthians 11:4?  It seems to me that her holy spirit will not use people to give some correction if a teacher is out of line, but will correct in some other direct way only (without people).  Using people as correcting tools does not seem like a characteristic of her holy spirit (based on her Facebook teachings).  Remember, the true Holy Spirit does use people and wrote the Bible (2 Peter 1:21) including these words: 
  • "I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom: Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables." (2 Timothy 4:1-4)
  • "Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, but he that hates reproof is senseless." (Proverbs 12:1)
  • "Whoever remains stiff-necked after many rebukes will suddenly be destroyed--without remedy." (Proverbs 29:1) 
  • "All scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness." (2 Timothy 3:16)
  • "Whoever rebukes a person will in the end gain favor rather than one who has a flattering tongue." (Proverbs 28:23)

Saturday, August 17, 2013

Are you tossed? Mature Christians and immature Christians: Following false prophets and their various 'winds of doctrine' is like being tossed by a storm


These days, we must be extra discerning who we are "following".  Who are you learning from?
"That we from now on be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, by which they lie in wait to deceive..." Ephesians 4:14
Are you a wise or foolish virgin (Matthew 25)?  The mark of a mature Christian is to not be tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, to not be deceived by the sleight of men, by their cunning craftiness.
Deception most always comes in a package of light (2 Cor. 11:14).  Be careful!
"For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many." Matthew 24:5
Matthew 24:5 makes it clear that deceptive teachings would even come from those who look good, those who teach about Jesus (Acts 20:30 further illustrates this point).  There are even discernment ministries out there that are teaching very unbiblical things that sound good!
Who are you following on Facebook?  Twitter?  Is it any wonder that the Lord used the word "Follow" thousands of years ago?
"Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to deceitful spirits, and doctrines of demons..." 1 Tim. 4:1
Have a blessed day...

Wednesday, March 6, 2013

Only One Jesus Can Save: 100% Divine and 100% Human

Check out this great comment we found on a Jesus Culture forum from a believer 
who was attempting to warn the brethren!

The Real Jesus is 100% Divine and 100% Man (Jesus of the Bible)
Not 0% Divine for thirty years and 100% Man (Jesus of Bill Johnson)
* Research the Hypostatic Union *

This was just another great comment that BSRG has come across from a faithful Berean!  This comment emphasizes the importance of exposing the false teachers and testing the spirits.  When Bill Johnson denies the full divinity of Jesus when Jesus was under the age of thirty, doesn't Johnson fail the test of a Biblical teacher?  Please research Johnson's public books, sermons and articles.  As Christians, we must be discerning and only follow the right Jesus.  After all, there is only one Jesus who can save!  If we follow a different Jesus or a different spirit, isn't that worshipping a false God?  
"You shall have no other gods before me." (Exodus 20:3) 
"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is no other name under heaven given among men, by which we must be saved." (Acts 4:12)

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Below are two more comments we found in a Jesus Culture forum from a believer 
who was attempting to warn the brethren and admonish (edify) them with sound doctrine...  
False Miracles and False Christs
Some More Questions and Answers